PRIS0N TIME, TREY GOWDY MAKES TERRIFYING MUELLER ANNOUNCEMENT
set to be arraigned in federal court the special counsel accusing him of obstruction in line
to Congress as he vows to fight this one fight it out and take
it to trial former Republican congressman from South Carolina trey
Gowdy chaired the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee joins us right now from Greenville
what are you congressman good morning good morning how are you doing okay weren't you
weren't you involved in some
of the cross-examination of Roger stone in the past so what might you be able to shed
light wise on this well I was I was in the room I may mask the questions that's
one of the narratives that unfortunately has been imprinted in our
fellow citizens Minds is that the Democrats were the only ones asking Russia questions
I asked Roger stone a bunch of questions you and you have a lot
of options when you are asked questions under oath you can not answer
you can tell the truth you can assert a privilege about the only thing you can't do is make
a material misrepresentation with the intent to deceive that he's presumed
innocent but I had a unique vantage point for both the questions
asked and the answers provided last year and do you believe he was telling you the truth
or did anything prove that he wasn't I am of my many limitations I am NOT
a human polygraph machine I do not know what and even if he made a factual
mistake I don't know whether or not he had the intent to deceive I know we spent a lot
of time on this WikiLeaks whether or not the Trump campaign had knowledge
that the information would be disseminated publicly we spent a lot of
time on that I actually asked him the intermediary question Adam Schiff couldn't get him to answer
it but he answered it for us for the Republicans on
who the intermediate intermediary it was with Julian Assange
all right so if he if he didn't tell the truth but didn't realize he wasn't for instance
you were at a party and you were there and you might have talked to someone
he doesn't remember talking to that person and he said no I've never
talked to that person if it turns out he did but he wasn't intending to lie I didn't intentionally
do it then then how does that weigh in the court thank goodness
every false statement does not result in perjury or a false
statement prosecution if I were to say I hope you have a good Thursday what today's not
Thursday so maybe I just made a mistake maybe I didn't recall it has
to be a material misrepresentation with the intent to deceive it's tough to
win these cases so the fact that Muller has brought so many of them and they've resulted
in guilty pleas or admissions tells me he must feel like he has a pretty
good case my way who's that intermediary you were able to find out
you said you thought of the intermediary between WikiLeaks and Roger stone what wasn't a credit
code Oh Randy credit goes right it will be interesting to see if
Robert Muller decides to go after everybody who lied in front of Congress
during your tenure that would be a crowded courtroom let's talk a little bit about Congressman
the race for the the 2020 presidency and you see Sutton you've
got a unique point of view having been in politics for so long what do you
make of the progressive pull to bring the Democratic Party so far to the left where
it seems like the most popular people right now are offering free everything
welcome to our world I mean we have a political process where the
primary is controlled by the base and that's true all the Republicans tonight and it's
true on the Democrat side so they're gonna have to sort out what Republicans
used to have to sort out do you go for someone you think is
electable like a John McCain or Mitt Romney who wound up not being elective electable
or do you go with who the base picks and the base pick Donald Trump and
he wound up winning now are they gonna go with Complex oh they're gonna go with Joe
Biden they have the same issues that
we've had gern past presidential cycles the candidate that I know the best is Tulsi Gabbard
and while we may not agree on issues I don't think she's gonna be pulled
in any direction she doesn't want to go and we'll see whether or not the
Democrats have an appetite for authenticity as they good they're not the nominating process
you know some are
saying that South Carolina is in play the Democrats are really coming hard down there
not only to win their prime when it gets there but to win the general
is South Carolina in play but not the one I live in to South
Carolina's know it this is Tim Scott you know Lindsey Graham country this is not kabbala
Harris AOC territory I think the
Democrats would like it to be in a play but perhaps that that's not theory and maybe I'll
live long enough to see that but don't have to live a long time my mom
is from Greenville where you are and she calls that God's country so do i and
we would love for you to come back to South Carolina Ansley well I'm not gonna do that
right now I come back about every weekend but maybe one day I love that
state I'm so proud of you and all the lawmakers there done a great job and
our Gamecocks indeed trait thank you very much for joining us live and Roberts dad is
expected in court in just a few hours the longtime adviser to President
Trump will be arraigned in Washington on seven charges the special
counsel accusing him of lying to Congress obstruction and witness tampering in the Russia
probe Stone says he is innocent and there was no collusion
there is no luck conclusion I had no collaboration with WikiLeaks I'm
not charged with conspiracy believe me if they could have made that case they would
have but they want to silence me because I will stand up for down that's what
this is really about so what does this mean for the Russia probe joining
us now is tomm fit and president of Judicial Watch so this is another one that is being
picked off by robert muller what do we have here Oh in my view
it's a low-rent indictment low-rent prosecution it's the sort of prosecution
I don't think the Justice Department would have brought but for this Muller Special Counsel
operation which is geared at trying to destroy and harass president
Trump I think mr. stone is going to have a crowd
argument in the courts that he didn't do what is suggested in the indictment now whether
he's guilty not I don't know but
I don't think Americans should be able really trust the Special Counsel operation to just
interestedly and dispassionately analyze the evidence about
what stone did so you know it's a terrible situation and mr. stone is in
the dock because it was a relationship with Donald Trump not because of anything inappropriate
he may or may not
that may or may not have done let's take a look at some of the charges against Roger
stone and that includes one count of obstruction of an official proceeding five
counts of false statements one count of witness tampering and we also
have a clip here from acting AG Matt Whittaker let's go ahead and listen to what he has to
say the investigation is I think close to being completed and I hope
that we can get the report from director Muller as
soon as
we
as
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