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welcome back president Trump doubles down on his demands for a border wall as
he calls on Democrats to restart negotiations on funding the government past February 15th
a new number of House
Democrats appear to be supporting the idea of at least a vote on wall funding one of
them joins me right now Utah Democratic congressman ben mcadams he's a
member of the House Financial Services Committee and the Blue Dog Coalition
congressman it's nice to have you on the program this morning thanks so much for being here
Thank You Maria good to be with you you were among 30 House Democrats
who sent Nancy Pelosi a letter urging her to give Trump a vote on the
wall funding tell me what you think would come out of that vote you know first and foremost
what the the purpose of that letter was to say that the shutdown
is doing no good for anybody we're harming the US economy we're
risking a recession we're harming the federal employees who are just working to put food
on the table and let's open the government there are processes in the
in the Congress in our government laid out by the founders to have debates
like this that's what Congress has intended to do so let's open the government and then
let's have this negotiation the president has a proposal that
should be heard in the Congress we should debate it and we should work to
build common ground and try and move forward a solution on border security on immigration
reform and let's go through the proper channels of the Congress that that
are built and intended to have this exact conversation but let's not do it
in the context of a shutdown that harms the American people that harms our economy and
risks the pocketbooks of every American what I'm trying to better understand
is really the makeup of the new Congress because of course we know
that there's a pocket of Democrats who just want the president out and much of it is politics
and they are resisting anything that he would like we know that
Nancy Pelosi and many of her colleagues voted for a wall and voted for wall fencing years
ago many times we know that there's a wall right now a border
wall in Nancy Pelosi zone state of California separating Tijuana and San Diego but because
President Trump has the idea it's resist resist resist so you
come from a red state you beat out your your opponent on the Republican
side do you think a movement within your new Congress to actually get things done putting
politics aside and not necessarily resisting everything the president says because you
don't like his personality
absolutely you know there are a lot of me and my colleagues who were elected this last
year a lot of us are just pragmatist who just want to get something
done before I was elected to Congress I was a mayor and mayor's just
have this attitude of okay what can we do to move forward to solve the problem as a
Democrat in a very red state I never got anything done unless I could reach
out and build bridges across the aisle so as long as the debate is
focused on you know as long as we're defining a win is meaning somebody else loses we're
never gonna have consensus so we've got to find that win win and I don't
know at this time what the win looks that win win looks like but we
have to find it and I know that a lot of my freshman colleagues are moderates who want
to find that win win that probably we should look at some things to address immigration
reform and dreamers I think is something important permanent
protections for dreamers but also border security as a mayor I saw illegal drugs and and the
impacts of that in my in my city and I want to do more to stop the flow
of illegal drugs into the end of the country so I think there's a lot of
common ground and I think the way to approach this and the way that I would approach it
if I was mayor is to say you know there's a conversation a debate about
wall or no wall let's step back from that conversation where there's
it's divided divisive and let's talk about what we have in common let's find that thread
of commonality amongst Republicans and Democrats I think the threat
of commonality is we all want to protect the border we can find common
ground on that so in some places that's going to mean technology other places in other ways
immigration reform and in some places it may mean a barrier and I think
if we step back and reframe the conversation about protecting the border
and what can we do and what's the most effective way to do that instead of debating a wall
or no wall let's debate border security and I think there's a lot
of common ground yeah I think you make a lot of good points because there
are areas of the country where they're wide open and perhaps maybe you don't need an actual
fence or wall there because you can use technology and drones
they're wide open areas that if illegals come in you can actually
apprehend them easily because it's so wide open but then there are areas like the wall
we've been looking at in Nancy Pelosi state separating Tijuana
from San Diego where you have a very dense population three million
people on one side of the wall through a Tijuana another three million people on the other
side of the wall in San Diego so what is your thoughts in terms of how much
is needed for actual barrier on the southern border and will you vote YES
for wall creation and more wall extension of what we're seeing in this picture so what
I've tried to do is not draw any lines in the sand I want to vote
to say have border protection to have border security to reduce the flow
of drugs and evil even illegal immigration that may include a barrier sure I wouldn't
rule out barriers and places where it's appropriate
I think that's I think that's acceptable but let's have this
conversation in the context of committee hearings at the Congress with a goal of finding common
ground I also think one of the things we can do to protect the border
is to reduce illegal immigration by fixing a broken immigration system if
we can make sure that those good people who are who are just looking for a job our economy
is asking to brainian workers let's find it let's make it easier
for them to immigrate legally so they're not tempted to cross the border
illegally so I think part of it part of the border part of the border protection strategy
has to be fixing a broken immigration system our laws do you feel that
you have a voice I mean I know that you did not support Nancy Pelosi's bid
to become the speaker for a second time do you feel like you're being listened to you
will you have the influence with these practical ideas that you're putting
forth I think so I mean we're just up getting up and going as a
congress right now I've been pleasantly surprised at people both on the Republican side and
even more progressive on the Democratic side who who
I felt that my voice is welcome let's let's hope that as we go into this
negotiation people can allow all voices to be at the table some of the pragmatists can
on both sides of the aisle again can really push for
common ground and trying to find that you know that solution that will
really garner a majority of support in Congress and help us to to reopen the border I'm somebody
who you know we're
gonna have disagreements from time to time but once one disagreements behind us we move
to the next issue we try and find common ground we don't carry baggage
forward for debate to debate and that's how I'd go into
this the same way we've got that behind us let's go further disagreements that are also
radical on the economic side of things you're on the Financial Services Committee
what are your thoughts on Elizabeth Warren's idea to confiscate
income to put attacks on overall assets and wealth or Alexandrian costea's idea of having
a seventy
percent
tax
rate for
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