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For 35 days President Trump announced a three-week spending deal with Democrats to reopen the government no funding for the wall
But Trump said it could close again in mid-february or he might use his emergency powers to start border funding
Funding for the border wall joining us now to analyze the coverage Molly Hemingway senior editor at The Federalist and a Fox News contributor
Beverly Hallberg president of district Media Group and a former television producer and Jessica Tarla of a Fox News
contributor molly new york times a stinging defeat for trump washington post a humiliating low-point Daily Caller Trump caves
Are the press and all the media organs basically writing calling this a tactical defeat for the president?
well
It it just objectively was a defeat the president tried to get a broad border security bill. Not just a barrier
Beds for for people who are coming across the border more personnel
Technology that inter deck interdict drugs 800 million dollars in asylum aid
He didn't get that so it is okay to say that he didn't he didn't do that. Of course
There is a longer story here, which is the government has been reopened
You have dozens of Democrats saying they do want to vote on this now that the government is open
So I think it's it's worthwhile to wait and see how serious people were about wanting border security how willing they are to negotiate
There was a failure at this point
But the larger issues which the vast majority of Americans seem to care about are ongoing and at some point the responsibility
Can't just lie on the president other people have to get involved come back to that one second Beverly
there was an increasingly sharp and intense media focus on the hardships being suffered by
Federal workers and their families and the impact on the economy and the air traffic system
Did that boost the pressure on President Trump to make a deal I think so and you saw the president Trump what he did he?
Tried to show his own people that he was supporting that's border security that's angel families
So it's really a battle of these two narratives and the people that are being hurt
But I do think that long term going back to what Molly was saying
Is that most Americans do want some type of border security?
So while I do think that this definitely looks like a defeat for the president and the short term
I think long term there's a lot more to come
So even though many in the media we're talking about this being a major victory
I don't think that they were focusing on the fact that in three weeks the president may get a little bit more of what he
Wants and so is the press
Celebration of Nancy Pelosi taking if the president could it be premature? Could this look very different in just a few weeks?
Well, it depends what happens
I think that people like Steny Hoyer and Jim Clyburn have been right on message
You know Steny Hoyer saying a border wall is not immoral. That's the wrong word to be using here
Jim Clyburn saying we're going to put together a compromise bill that it does something a smart
Wall, right that has technology and extension of physical barriers in certain places
I don't think that the media
Calling it a win and saying that he caved is wrong because that narrative will hold again if he does shut down the government
unilaterally
Calling a national emergency in three weeks
That will not
Make Republicans happy or Democrats happy and I think that using the stories about hardship and specifically what happened when FAA
Called out sick because of what did it take an hour hour and a half with LaGuardia closed
That the president suddenly was willing to come to the table there
But Mellie the president also taking some flack from the right
And coulter famously said called him like the biggest wimp ever the service president. She's an immigration hard-line HW is worse
Well, anyway, how in your opinion?
She said all right
Does this feel like a double edged loss because the president didn't make either side?
Well, this is a great example
I think of how the media do a good job at covering surface level issues, but rarely at digging deeper
This is a problem going back decades
Trump and Pelosi are not the only figures on the scene you have other people who are responsible for the failure to do what?
American voters have asked for pleaded for
demanded for decades and when you cover it just as a win or loss for Trump versus Pelosi or
Just as a horse race type thing. You see how people get away with not handling this and I think that these are
And I guess there could be some pockets where they maybe disagree a little bit but not very much yeah
About what
Well, I'm gonna see how we do with
Going through Congress don't forget national emergency is going through Congress because that already went through doctors
That's what's so ports. If you read it, it is so clear it is so perfect
I'd rather not do it not for any particular reason other than this should be easy to get approved through Congress
There's the same people that are holding it up have approved it
Just a few years ago and now all of a sudden they're not the reason they're not is because of me hate to say
Because they know they're going to lose in 2020. They'll do anything they can
They want to win
Really large structural issues that require nuanced and deep understanding that frankly
Our media just don't have and even when it comes to the players involved in this failure to secure the border
It's not just Trump and Pelosi
it's also
Senate Republicans who played a key role
Who clearly didn't want to do this fight and whether they will want to in the next several weeks will be interesting to see you
Know just days before the stop cap deal Beverly
The president backed off at giving the State of the Union an alternate side after Nancy Pelosi had said no
You're not welcome to come to the house. He said it was her prerogative all of these headlines
Just taking the Washington Post a rival who can flummoxed Trump a powerful woman named Nancy Pelosi today. The post is back again
Pelosi doesn't mess around speaker emerges triumphant
But there was far less attention to the conservative competition said it was kind of petty
To try to exclude the State of the Union
Yeah, I would agree that I think Nancy Pelosi has every right to do so
There are a lot of people talking about whether or not he should do this
of course from the Senate floor or even when I think optically would be good which is
Maybe on the border and talking to border agents and angel families
So I do think that what the media has turned this into is more of we we don't like Trump
We don't want to
Put him in a favorable light and as Molly was saying we're not getting to the nuance because I mean when you talk about immigration
This is a battle that Republicans have fought over for a very long time and I do think it's valid to ask
Why is this fight now and not in the past two years when Republicans did have the house?
Look, it's obscured by all the you score key figures
Of course that this was just not a good outcome for the country to go 35 days
And get the same deal that basically both sides could have gotten on day one
Yeah
and I think it's important to be pointing that out as journalists to talk about it in those kinds of terms instead of
saying
You know move the State of the Union to the border which turns it into a campaign rally and in the State of the Union
is the one thing happens every year that is actually supposed to be for both sides and
it does have it should have that level of
Magisterium and it should be in the house and I do think it was
Inappropriate for the president to want to do that while the government is shut down
There was pettiness on both sides from you can't come to I'm taking away your military plane
But okay, that's the point that was petting this on both sides, but it was Nancy Pelosi
I think who got all the glowing headlines. Let me move on to Roger stone as you all know
He was indicted in the Moller investigation and obstruction lying to Congress and other
Asks other charges having to do with his dealings his communications with WikiLeaks
During the campaign and trying to find out whether the more hack Democratic emails coming
So there was this incredible mob scene at the courthouse in Florida
And then after Stone proclaimed his innocence he did this media blitz. He was on Stephanopoulos this morning on Friday
He was on Tucker Carlson and also CNN's Chris Cuomo take a look. I
Never discussed this with Donald Trump so speculation tonight by Wolf Blitzer by a prima Hara
by others that Trump
Directed me to do this or directed someone to direct me to do this. So I'm going to say all that speculation is wrong
He's been saying that for a long time
but there is in this indictment sort of person 1 and person 2 and Trump campaigns or the media or like well
These must be really senior people maybe even the president but we don't know that well
And also it actually doesn't even matter who the person is because the indictment doesn't suggest anything to support the underlying
Narrative that has been pushed for several years now, which is treasonous collusion with Russia to steal the election
talking to people about
information that they have already put out and when the next batch is going to come out of negative information is not a crime if
It were the Special Counsel would have indicated that it was a crime that Roger stone a guy who is bragged about
During being a dirty trickster going back to the Nixon era was unable to be gone on anything other than process crimes
Does tell us something interesting and yes, he's a fun character to cover and yes
It's fun to see him coming out of the courthouse that way but we are as journalists
We are required to check that underlying issue was their treasonous collusion with Russia that justifies
Unsettling the campaign unsettling the administration and I'm sorry
but our media are
completely incapable of asking tough questions
Of the special counsel of the FBI of the Department of Justice and this just shows that well, these are process
Crimes, but obstruction of justice lying to Congress are also very serious crimes Jessica and the media right in there
whatever
Whatever is the mysterious dealings between Roger stone this longtime
Gadfly and Julian Assange as people. He was just trying to get a heads-up of what was coming out next
He was an informal Trump advisor. He was according to the indictment in regular contact with the Trump campaign
And now he's charged with not telling truth about this. I do think it is serious
It's not as serious as some people who want the Moller report to come out within the next twenty minutes because they can't just wait
Any more are making it out to be but as more and more
Trump associates who had a role in the campaign and then frankly have been around him for decades
Go down for this and potentially turn into
cooperating witnesses
people who want to turn a blind eye to it and continue to scream witch-hunt are looking more and more absurd and I think that's
What he's going on here and Donald Trump surrounded himself with Liars almost exclusively
It seems Roger stone is accused of that you have you know, Ricky, it's your Paul Manafort there Michael Cohen long list of them
We'll see what happens when they get really used a little more turns into then
I think what the media setting up is guilt by association if the collusion claims don't hold true
So I think that's what's happening as a whole you see either on CNN or MSNBC?
You almost have mug shot style of the people who've been indicted or convicted
Of crimes and they think they're laying out the case already that if collusion doesn't happen
We're gonna do guilt by association the media loving covering stone
I mean, he's a self-described dirty trickster who's been around forever and he goes and there's all these TV interviews
So just on the entertainment value
It's why they love the story. It's fine to cover it. It's good to cover it
But it's also true that this week we learned that there was major obstruction going on at the Department of Justice
And nobody covered it
We learned that they had claimed they had led Congress to believe that they didn't have access to the dossier until just before the election
Sworn testimony before Congress tells us they knew about meetings with Steele going back to July of the campaign
Nobody in the media cares about that
nobody cares that John Podesta
Sat next to the guy who commissioned the dossier and claimed he didn't have any idea where it came from
I agree that lying to Congress is a problem
But you have people lying to Congress all the time
Including James clapper and John Brennan and they don't get charged and so it's important that the media don't just in their hatred for Trump
Take Glee in this without thinking about these institutions of our law enforcement as well. It's been overshadowed
Let me ask you before we go
they've been lay out significant layouts at BuzzFeed and
HuffPost two places not friendly to Trump president treats axe Falls and fake news and bad journals have caused a big downturn
Ben, smith editor BuzzFeed said it was a disgusting thing to say because all these people are losing their jobs your thoughts
I think Trump is often a sore winner and I think this is
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