OH BOOM!! TRUMP JUST DROPS MASSIVE BOMBSHELL OVER GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN!! TOP DEMS ON THE
RUN!
now to the shutdown standoff as the president blames the Democrats tweeting I am all alone
poor me in the White House waiting for the Democrats to come back and make a deal on
desperately needed border security at some point the Democrats not wanting to make a
deal will cost our country more money than the border wall we're all talking about crazy
joining me now haven't Sheridan GOP strategist and former spokesman for the MIT Romney campaign
and RNC and Robin burrow former Obama campaign regional director and Democratic strategist
thank you both for joining me on this
Christmas Eve wonderful to see you both let's talk a little bit about the timeline this
is what Mick Mulvaney had to say and I think was Fox News Sunday Senate went into recess
until at least Thursday that doesn't mean it beat before Thursday till we get here something
back but I don't think things are going to move very quickly here for the next couple
days he's talking about the next couple days could we see things
potentially stretch into a week potentially several weeks Robin what do you think you
know I honestly do yeah I'm generally a glass has pulled a half-full kind of guy but I think
this is gonna take a while and you know we've we've given part of the way on this deal but
it's not anywhere near the five billion dollars that President Trump wants I think we're gonna
have to meet somewhere in the middle I suspect that we're gonna get a deal on a border fence
if you notice the president's most recent language is saying that also and I think that
that might appease some Democrats because look we were for the secure Fence Act in 2006
on a bipartisan manner I think we can make progress there Molly well it's interesting
you bring that up
there's been a lot of talk about semantics whether if they can just slide wall out of
the documents that are being passed and forth they could come to some sort of compromise
what do you think Kevin it is that the compromise that will have to happen and once things slide
into this new year will Democrats hold out until Nancy Pelosi steps in yeah we're not
gonna have any negotiations at any real negotiations I think itself she's uh she's sworn in on
January 3rd and and she can you know get the approval of the new members that she's gotten
her caucus that are very obviously left-leaning and are not going allow her to do any negotiating
with the White House on this whatsoever at some point though she's gonna have to stand
up to her base and say look we can't shut the government down indefinitely
forever for what we're talking about here is just a few billion dollars it's it's not
you know this isn't gonna solve the problem of all border security but at the end of the
day what are we talking about we're talking about a few billion dollars especially between
the 1 and the 5 I mean it's a keep the government shut down forever for that I mean it's it's
not much and it seems like we're talking a lot about wording as well there's a fairly
new statement here from leader Pelosi and Schumer on the Trump shut down as they you
know as we'll talk about branding and which sides to blame it says Christmas Eve and prison
Trump is plunging the country into chaos the
stock market tanking in the president waging a personal war on the Federal Reserve after
he just fired the Secretary of Defense instead of bringing certainty into people's lives
he's continuing the Trump shutdown just to please right ring radio and TV host meanwhile
different people from the White House are saying different things about what the president
would accept or not accept to end the Trump shutdown so they're really billing this as
the Trump shutdown but once Nancy Pelosi steps in and begins to take over then does the blame
shift a little bit what are the what would the American people think if this goes on
for too long Robin you know honestly it's that's that's a great
question because it's gonna be our problem and you know we just gained 40 seats in the
house that's great but if we don't actually get progress and get work done we're not going
to be able to keep those seats headed into 2020 and 2020 is gonna look not so great for
us presidentially if we can't actually deliver and get work done that's going to require
us to work across the aisle and start giving these Americans some of these reforms that
they want that's how Trump came into office because he was the anti politician so we've
got to get our head the message through our thick heads as Democrats that we've got to
work across the aisle and get something done Molly here's what one Democrat had to say
senator dick durbin take a listen the president just a few days ago said he was proud to author
a shutdown of his own government that he was elected to be the commander in chief and chief
executive it really is in the president's hands to decide he says it's an issue of border
security I think we know better it's an issue of his own political insecurity political
insecurity you know this is something that going back and forth that they have often
targeted the president as being and calling him a toddler that sort of thing that sort
of language being used political insecurity that this is a bone that's being thrown to
the right what do you think Kevin what
do you think that's the sort of language that's being used as we work towards potentially
you know we would hope a solution that's Democrat spin look the border being insecure it's a
problem that goes back and it's too blunt and both parties are to blame for going back
20 years or more I think you know this is a symbolic issue we're talking about a few
billion dollars to to start some some serious structure at the border whatever you want
to call it but the either the American people have lost faith in both sides of Congress
because neither has done anything on it and both have played political games with it I
would argue that you know there was a real shot in 2005 when Democrats were supporting
border security for instance to get a real compromise done on it and
they they bailed on it and they took the issue and they thought it was good politics and
they've run out of ever since and to some extent they've they've continued to win on
it until 2016 with President Trump brought the issue up or then candidate Trump brought
the issue to the to the American people and actually won on it when nobody thought it
was possible so now it's a mainstream Republican issue but look we're gonna have to get security
at the border there's a reason why there's 1520 million people in this country illegally
they got here somehow and some of its coming over the border you need to stop that border
you got to stop the drugs you've got to stop the smuggling so yeah the shutdown will be
watching certainly
and then the coming days potentially into the week following and who and who knows how
long really but that border issue we'll be watching for a much longer time have a feeling
of Kevin Sheridan Rob enviro thanks so much for joining us Merry Christmas Julian thanks
president Trump working to hammer out a deal with lawmakers as the government remains partially
shut down Democrats though showing a not much sign of budging on stopping the border wall
it will never pass the Senate not today not next week not next year so mr. president president
Trump if you want to open the government you must abandon the wall plain and simple all
right so what will it take to strike a deal here here to weigh in on that GOP strategist
Liz Copeland and democratic
political commentator Jonathan Harris guys thanks for coming on this morning Jonathan
want to start with you it looks like the White House has come down quite a bit it looks like
they're offering around two and a half instead of five for fencing and some security is that
gonna play for Chuck Schumer I hope it doesn't according to Chuck Schumer won't play he said
he's not Trump is not getting a wall and I hope if the Democrats can stick to that then
know hopefully alone they already received billions of dollars in the 2016-2017 budget
for border upgrades they don't need this this is about a campaign promise it's not about
border security yep Liz you know the Democrats say that they don't want the wall the wall
does not work but they're willing to spend money on border
security what what is it that they want to try to secure the border that hasn't been
tried before I'm not quite sure I don't know what anyone knows what's going on I think
most of this for the Democrats is just theatrics you could think about in the past 40 years
Congress has only been able to pass the federal appropriations bill one time in four instances
and so when they didn't do that essential government services continued on here we have
Democrats once again willing to shut down our government all in the name of illegal
immigration it doesn't make any sense especially when you consider that people
they're really hurting furloughed government employees statistically more often than not
are Democrats they're not Republicans yes Jonathan now I want to ask you this you know
there's there's a lot of numbers thrown around about the cost of illegal immigration in this
country the president puts a number at like 200 million a year or I'm sorry 200 billion
a year a lot of people say that's grossly inflated but even moderate modest estimates
are in the billions the Democrats right now are really angry over spending five billion
dollars but they ignore the billions that that illegal immigration costs this
country is it fairly obvious to you that this is just about not having a wall and not letting
the president win here well again like I said in the 2016-17 budget they were given bill
of dollars they I think they spent what about six percent of it to upgrade the security
at the border so again I I don't think his concern is about security I think it's about
going back to all these rural parts of the country and going look see I told you I was
gonna get the wall look I'm so strong I can negotiate but instead he's not wanting to
upgrade the fencing that we already have in some of the existing security measures we
already have so I to me it's it's far more about that than
anything else in the idea of blaming the shutdown on the Democrats when Trump clearly said earlier
this month that he would be proud to shut down the government would take full responsibility
for it is absurd yeah Liz same question to you do you think that this the Democrats really
care this much about five billion dollars or is this about making a political point
I think it's about making a political point and to be clear there's nothing wrong we should
want candidates who uphold their campaign pledges once they're in office that's what
President Trump said he was gonna do that's what
he's going to do so as far as I'm concerned when the Democrats say that this isn't a good
use of taxpayers time or money I think that's absurd having strong borders is very important
and there are 11 million illegal immigrants in this country right now the most important
thing that we can focus on to secure in our southern border Liz right back to you real
quick do you think a deal gets done and then what do you think it looks like well incoming
acting chief of staff said that we could expect for this to carry only well in 2019 I'm thinking
somewhere between a third or the fourth week of January we should see a break but I think
the president is
gonna hold strong and commit to making sure that we get funding for the border okay and
Jonathan to you last word I I hope they don't I hope the Democrats stay firm on this and
I hope that Trump is forced to back down on this there's quite a bit of things we could
do in this country with five billion dollars from education infrastructure it's not about
a border wall this is about him trying to keep a promise to his voters that should have
never been made to begin with okay there you have it both sides thank you guys very much
for your time this morning we appreciate it Merry Christmas Merry Christmas Christmas
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