FINALLY!!
JULIAN ASSANGE JUST UNLEASHED A HELL ON HILLARY,WORST NIGHTMARE COMING TRUE FOR DEMS
hey welcome back on brian Stelter this is reliable sources last week days before the
opening of the Democratic convention WikiLeaks published a trove of hacked stolen DNC emails
and voice messages indicating efforts by party officials to hinder Bernie Sanders campaign
and assist Hillary Clinton's campaign this bombshell led the DNC chairwoman to step down
but that was just the beginning of this story US government sources and
private security firms strongly suspect that Russian intelligence agents were behind the
data breach WikiLeaks is promising to publish more DNC or Clinton related documents in the
months to come so let's ask what the leaks founder Julian Assange about that and he's
joining me live remotely from London from the Ecuadorian Embassy where he's been under
house arrest for years mr.
Assange let me show you what Hillary Clinton said just a couple of hours ago on Fox News
talking about this data dump here's what she said we know that Russian intelligence services
which are part of the Russian government which is under the firm control of Vladimir Putin
hacked into
the DNC and we know that they arranged for a lot of those emails to be released and we
know that Donald Trump has shown a very troubling willingness to back up Putin so were you suggesting
that Putin would rather see him as president than you well I'm not going to jump to that
conclusion but I think laying out the facts raises serious issues about Russian interference
in our elections mr.
Assange is Hillary Clinton wrong to link this to Russia well she's made several untrue statements
now not surprised I'll get to them it's not surprising unfortunately that Hillary Clinton
makes untrue statements just a few days ago she made a statement that James Kony I did
not say that she was sloppy in the handling of her emails when there's Ridge everywhere
of James
Kony telling the head of the FBI telling Congress precisely that so unfortunately he can't trust
what Hillary Clinton says I'll get to the words that she's used now for WikiLeaks we're
in a very difficult position we have a perfect 10 year record of always presenting accurate
information to the public that's the best in any media whatsoever and we we also have
a perfect record in ever exposing our sources occasionally someone allege sources step for
themselves but web never expose we know I understand new cars have a source protection
organization you're not willing to disclose your sources which is understandable and yet
how can we get leaks claim to promote transparency in politics without being open about the backstage
interests that influence and possibly steer your operation isn't it hypocritical to do
that we're media organization and media
organizations have an obligation to protect their sources amer that's that's one oh that's
101 let's let me take you through a hypothetical let's say hypothetically Russia gives you
access to a trove of hacked stolen emails would that hypothetically give you any pause
ethically would it be an issue for you now let's not talk about hypotheticals let's talk
about about the real case Hillary Clinton on Fox is trying to undermine our publication
trying to draw attention away from the fact that she conspired with the Debbie wasserman-schultz
her former campaign manager was head of the Democratic Party this advert an election in
the United States now there is what is the result of that the result is the free market
of
electoral candidates was ruined instead you had a regulatory organization the DNC abusing
its radiant regulatory function the paper one candidate above another including by pumping
out black media black media campaigns trying to undermine Bernie Sanders in complicity
with a lot of the media and that has been covered that has been covered but what about
your role what is the end result the end result may well be that the less competitive candidates
in an open market competition which is what is coming up in the proper election has managed
to secure the nomination and the result of that could well be the election of Donald
Trump so that all published that news has been reported on but why did we publish voicemails
our jewelry market
why did you publish social security numbers from innocent people why publish that kind
of material doesn't it hurt your cause WikiLeaks has contributed to hundreds literally hundreds
of court cases prosecutions liberating innocent people from prison now we're not going I was
inspired by WikiLeaks I remember interviewing you six years ago I was so inspired by WikiLeaks
but let me put up Edward Snowden this tweet on screen this is I think the key as Snowden
said democratizing information has never been more vital and WikiLeaks has helped but their
hostility to even modest curation is a mistake why publish social security numbers why publish
voicemails from children oh as I just explained we publish pristine archives that can be used
in court cases and I used in court cases one for example was used in the Yukos case which
produced a 56 billion dollar dollar finding against Russia in example in relation to expropriation
of oil assets that had previously belonged to a Russian oligarch so we're talking about
at the highest level in terms of civil cases and at the highest level for example in CIA
rendition programs so it's extremely important to not tamper with the evidence to have a
pristine archive and that's what we do now if you want to talk about the reporting of
personal details it's false there there are not full credit card numbers in what we published
what there is is what you see on 7-eleven receipts the last four digits of credit card
numbers there has been a final decision there is no ability to appeal the decision of the
United Nations the lawfulness of my detention or otherwise is a now a matter of settled
law you can't decide that you
are going to recognize a forum take place in proceedings respond to the other party
and then at the end when you don't like the outcome because you have been breaking the
law and you don't even bother to appeal come out with press statements and say well we
disagree it is now the task of the states of Sweden and the United Kingdom as a whole
to implement the verdict now why they can be attempts for the media for the popular
press to look tough and attempt to undermine that a serious attempt not just for show would
have the effect of undermining the UN system and there are consequences of doing that and
Sweden and the UK know full well that there are consequences those consequences include
not merely weakening a human rights and international law instrument to which both countries have
signed binding treaties but rather it will have the diplomatic effect and upon diplomats
know it the diplomatic effect will be to make life difficult for Sweden and the United Kingdom
to be treated seriously as an international player as international players that obey
the international legal obligations their attempts if they proceed to undermine the
UN system we'll see we'll see various enforcement measures that can be taken by the UN how concerned
are you that the emails that WikiLeaks has has
released could have been hacked by the Russian secret services and could have been released
to you as a way of manipulating or influencing the u.s. presidential elections these are
separate questions Exce experts or so-called experts the Hillary Clinton campaign has been
quoting in terms of analysis they are not analyzing our materials they have been analyzing
previous materials are being published by the hill the smoking gun and Gawker now they
didn't publish emails they analyzed their material it's positive this material given
that it's suspected very seriously that the russians hacked the the DNC accounts it's
possible that this material also came from the Russians and was also
released in order to cause maximum damage to the Clinton campaign well what we try and
do as a source protection organization is we like to create maximum and big Uwe T as
to who our sources up because a big was a hard drive that came from eBay maybe consultants
maybe activist maybe state actors maybe whole lotta but you're not specifically Russian
well perhaps one day the source or sources will step forward and that might be a interesting
moment some people will have take on their paces and will be interesting but obviously
to exclude certain actors is to make it easier to find out who our sources are so we never
do it but but as an open source organization you
encourage material from from whatever source like that was like a vacuum cleaner are you
alright with the fact that it could have been the Russians that have done this to manipulate
the presidential elections but you could have been used by the secret services in Moscow
for precisely that reason are you comfortable with that what we have right now is the Hillary
Clinton campaign using a speculative allegation about
hacks that have occurred in the past to try and divert attention from our emails another
separate issue that WikiLeaks is published now because they are having so much political
impact in the United States and I think this raises a very serious question which is is
that the natural instincts of Hillary Clinton and the people around her that when confronted
with a serious domestic political scandal that she tries to blame the Russians blame
the Chinese etc because if she does that when she's in government that is a met a political
managerial style

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