IT HAPPENS!!TRUMP DECLARES TO DO IT WITHOUT ANY APPROVALS! HUGE!!
good evening and welcome to tucker carlson tonight there is a new congress here in washington
but the government shutdown continues as before the stalemate
over border wall funding entered its third week each side is
betting the other will give in first negotiations continue at the White House today but apparently
they bore no fruit because afterward the president emerged they
say the situation on our southern border is so grave he may be forced to
build a wall without congressional approval have you considered using emergency powers
to grant yourself authorities to build this wall without congressional
approval and second guess I have to go you have yes I have and I
can do it if I want so you don't need congressional approval to build no we can use them absolutely
we can call a national emergency because of the security
of our country absolutely no we can do it I haven't done it I may do it
I may do it but we could call a national emergency and build it very quickly well Democrats call
that extremism but who are the extremists here all the ones who
refuse to defend their country the new Speaker of the House has announced
that the Democratic Congress will never under any circumstances allocate a single tax dollar
to build the border wall not because it's too expensive obviously
these were the Democrats but because a wall would violate some
previously unknown and never explained moral code watch it's not who we are as a nation
it's an old way of thinking well it's tempting to assume that the speaker must have misspoke
in there but it's hardly the first time she has said that immoral immorality
she's used those words repeatedly now Pelosi is the highest
ranking Democrat in the United States she's a leader of her parties so we should not blow
this off we should take it seriously as a matter of policy Democrats
believe a border wall is immoral and that raises the question
what do they consider moral well American troops stuck forever in Syria for one thing
that's just fine sex selective abortions paid for with tax dollars
kicking up more moral than that and Tifa riding in the streets all
perfectly virtuous and it turns out even walls can be morale under the right circumstances
they just can't protect America Democrats gladly signed off on border defenses for Jordan
Tunisia and Israel no problem glad to do it but here on behalf
of our own people no Americans don't deserve that they're immoral for
asking those are the parameters of their morality so what religion is this exactly joining us
now to explain his archbishop Chris Hahn he's an attorney radio
host and former agent center Chuck Schumer and he joins us tonight and so
if you would I think we've talked about this before Nate suppose he has repeatedly called
the wall immoral and at first I thought well you know she talks a lot and I know the feeling
sometimes you even speak but this is a talking point this is something
she's saying intentionally is the leader now officially of your party
so Democrats believe border walls are immoral what does that mean I don't think she means
it in the good versus evil type of morality but rather this is a
colossal waste of money since there's never been a ladder in a
rope that hasn't beaten a wall we finish I will let you finish I just want to back
up I promise I'm not I don't mean to interrupt you but I just want to bec
know what other sense of immoral is there I mean by definition immoral describes something
that is not moral it is again by definition within the scheme of
morality it's a religious precepts so what does that mean I was a wall and I
know I look I mean I don't think she means it in a good versus evil religious way I think
she means it anyway is that this is a colossal estupid this is a colossal
II stupid thing to build when a guy with a ladder that's a
foot taller and a rope to get down the other side will beat it and quite frankly no you're
the nr okay get a bottle the NRA argument though if we put a
wall up to block out illegal you know people from ku come here to want to harm
us people want to come here legally you're the only ones are gonna be stopped by that
wall because people are gonna come here illegally or come here to
harm us or gonna figure a way around it just like they figure out a way to
get guns they're gonna get they're gonna get there oh my god I think I I think I'm following
you so they're gonna get their own wall they're gonna buy a wall in
the black market and bring their wall to our wall and beat it is that what
you're saying just to continue the metaphor No law-abiding people will be stopped by
the wall but the people who wish to break our laws will be will avoid the wall like
they do ever like that's the right argument please let me show you in prison
that's the right got your guns it's the right it should be it should be
accepted here too okay I'm trying to take you seriously is that also true at prisons
which are surrounded by walls walls meant to keep lawbreakers in do they
not work so you know a prison is a couple of acres and you've got centuries
pointed that can monitor that wall the president's talking about thousands of miles of wall are
we gonna have sentries every hundred y'all every hundred feet to
watch that wall look we be better off Tucker we'd be better off with modern
technology we've used drones we can use other things to monitor the border make sure it's
backed up by the appropriate masses where a Border Patrol company I'm trying
to get reasonable make sense we we both know that you're in favor of
more people coming here illegally and I'm not and that's the actual debate but for the
purpose of border security of course we're not but I just want to drill
down a little bit on this idea of morality because I think it's really
important when the leader of a political party starts calling the other side in moral that's
not a small thing so I just want to understand in the very same day that
she said that she pushed to allow tax payer dollars from the United States
to go abroad to fund abortions in Latin America among other places so you're saying it's immoral
to keep Latin America out with a wall but it's not
immoral to pay for Latin American abortions that's what Nancy Pelosi you say do you agree
with that well you know I think we need like a couple of hours to discuss
the morality of choice which is more and more building on pro-choice or to pay for abortions
in other countries I'm just wondering so I'm not going to first of
all tax dollars do not pay for abortions other country in the
challenging Senate which we all know about so they will never they will never go that
way right but I mean debating whether or not that's moral immoral that's
a longer conversation we probably last wondering what is switch still hold
on let's just I'm not asking you to conduct theology here I'm just asking you to me your
view in the two things taxpayer money for sex selective abortions
Nancy Pelosi is four okay or building a wall one is immoral which one is a I don't
I don't believe that she's for sex selective abortion she a country that is
it old which is more and I think the more moral use of the funding for the wall would
be to fix the bridges and roads that are crumbling in this country that
actually need repair and spend a couple of bucks on ring video doorbell
for border security this is really not as big of a problem as the president's the world
the president making a problem that doesn't exist okay so really quick at
the very same time again that she was pushing against America's ability to
defend itself and its borders and for more taxpayer-funded abortions in other countries
she was also pushing for more foreign aid for other countries some of which would go
to border security we've already funded with her approval border secured
including walls in a bunch of other countries why were those not
immoral but our wall is immoral well you know when we talk about the Israeli wall and other
countries that have walls like that they are in a constant state of war with
their neighbor we are not in a state of no or no that's a Joe we are
not having a crisis at the border people not lobbing bombs into our country from from Mexico
trading partner right I understand that and there are a number of
barriers in Israel and some of them are designed to keep terrorists from
coming in and I don't think anyone would question the right to do that good for them right but
there's also a barrier on the southern border of Israel with Egypt that
is designed solely to keep immigrants from Africa out of their
country now I think it's Israel's right to build that wall I would never contest that
I don't have a problem with it but Nancy Pelosi doesn't have a problem with it
either that was not immoral but our wall is immoral I'd honestly don't understand that
what is the answer you know we're we're a nation of immigrants it's what
makes this country great it's what refreshes this country gives us a competitive edge with
the rest of the world if the President and his party want
to change that that should be what they talk about what does their right
now is demagoguing about some invisible direction does not exist at the southern border and
it's time for them to somehow to face reality and they even the government
and have a conversation about who and how many people are here
illegally now in the United States do you know I would think over 10 million over 10
is 40 million try over 20 which is the latest estimate
and not from some right-wing organization but from Ivy League
researchers does that seem like a lot does that seem like the current border security
schemes are working to you over 20 million P it seems like a lot and it seems
like a lot and and and 90% of those people Tucker did not cross the
southern border they missed a visa you don't even know with him Tamara lien how many are
here every I wasn't prepared for that question but every eye sees red shows
every Ivy League study that I've read about this topic says that exact
same thing that most people who are here illegally have just overstayed their visas and building
a wall the southern border is not going to change that it's just
a colossal wave in the one'd uh if you believe it's immoral
then it's really not here we're just guessing it's not gonna work okay maybe right we'll
see Chris thank you very much all right president Trump says the partial
government shutdown could last months or more than a year although he hopes negotiations
will be fruitful in coming days but the president also says he's
considering declaring a national emergency in order to build his border wall with or
without Congress the statements come on the day the stock market
surged on higher than expected jobs numbers for December and the
Federal Reserve chair saying he will be patient with interest rate hikes we have Fox team
coverage tonight doesn't he'll raise on Capitol Hill where Democrats are
firmly entrenched against the president's border wall correspondent
Kevin cork those starts us off tonight from the White House where the president seems
equally committed to his position good evening Kevin evening Brett asked if
he would consider those emergency powers to grab himself the authority to
somehow fund the wall without congressional approval the president said yes he'd come
he thought about it and yes he would do it if it came to that
just a very latest twist in the ongoing debate about funding the wall
and ending the partial government shutdown we can use them absolutely we can call a national
emergency because of the security of our country absolute you know
we can do it I haven't done it I may do it I may do it but we could
call a national emergency and build it very quickly president Trump today on the heels
of a two hour meeting with Democrats here at the
White House we just completed a lengthy and sometimes contentious
conversation with the president we had a very very productive meeting two viewpoints of
a very important meeting with a singular purpose to end the partial
government shutdown I'm not saying it was an easy meeting or even a
kind meeting or a nice meeting but in the end I think we've come a long way we're gonna
be working very hard over



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