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Paul: let me pull up my list of questions here. Josie: Los Angeles is talking to us.
P: Los Angeles is always noisy J: [laughs]
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P: Helps if I can talk. Hi PaulTalkers and other viewers, I'm Paul, I'm based in Los Angeles,
this is where PaulTalks and today I'm talking with my friend from
P: Sweden, also a youtuber: J: I'm Josie!
P: Where can we find you on the Internet, Josie? J: my channel is
J: lifelikeJosie, it's a bit of creativity, travel, inspiration, I hope! We did a video on my channel.
P: Yeah! Definitely check out
the video that we did on her channel, information about cool apps for your smartphone!
J: Who doesn't need that!?
P: We met each other at YouTube space LA like a little bit over a year ago, right?
J: I vlogged it, too. Vlogger! That's the great thing about YouTube.
P: You have a vlogging history of it! (J: yeah!) awesome! She came back to LA for a little
P: visit this year around VidCon time (J: yeah!) and before she leaves, like literally right before
P: she leaves, we're doing some collabs! J: Yeah. Leaving for Bali tonight. In a few hours.
P: Wow! last-minute collabs-- I mean that's a
P: YouTube thing to do so that's fine. J: Yeah! You've got to hustle and do stuff! (laughs)
P: as my regular viewers know, I like to bring a
lot of different perspectives to my channel and my big thing is just to have
P: conversations. so I'm gonna ask Josie some questions, not taking her by surprise--
I've given her all these questions in advance, so she knows these are coming...
P: So, the very first question is: how difficult is it to come to the United States as a
P: non-US citizen? J: Mmm, not really! Since I live in Sweden, we're kinda
have a "good stance"?
P: okay so it depends on the country you're coming from? J: Definitely!
J: although it's getting harder now. I've heard some friends got detained for
hours and hours at the airport, in like a little room and the officers working
don't even care they're looking at their phones. people are just waiting and hungry
J: and gotta go to the bathroom (P: that's awful!) it never happened to me yet, so I'm happy but, yes
so basically at least me, that live in Sweden
a lot of other countries have a visa waiver program, and you get to stay
J: three months in the States. Last year I stayed exactly for 90 days!
P: (laughter) J: whch is the time that you get.
J: then you gotta leave! P: So you can visit and
P: stay for up to three months per year? J: yeah and that's super easy, you just apply for something
J: real quick, but if you want to stay longer, there are travel visas
J: and tourist visas and stuff like that. I haven't looked into that.
P: that's good to know, too. interesting!
I was wondering if it wa s gonna be different from last year to this year because our
P: government changed? J: yeah, Uh, yeah, that's recently is when I've heard people
J: go into that room and get detained for a bit. That didn't happen before. I've heard about that more
J: recently, actually. P: Ugh. Americans make everything harder.
P: um. speaking of that,
speaking of that, what's easier to do, like, in your daily life as a young
person, what's easier to do here than in Sweden or what's harder to do here than
P: in Sweden? J: okay this doesn't apply to me, but here?
J: smoking weed? everyone does it? (P: laughs) In Sweden? I don't know anyone that does it.
P: Really!? J: Apparently, it's a thing here. Everyone does it!
P: I know that everyone
P: does it here, I'm surprised nobody does it in Sweden! J: I'm so surprised! I'm not used to this at
J: all! But apparently, so that's gotta be easier to do here, get here, because come to Sweden
J: And you're like, Uhhh, what? You don't have it? (laughs)
P: Interesting! J: I don't know. Let's see what I have more... so easier to do
J: here is apparently get a driver's license! (P: oh yeah?) So, to start off you can do it two
J: years before? It's different in the different states, right? but in Sweden
you have to be 16 to start practicing and 18 to get the license. i also heard
that the tests are more rigorous in Sweden. that compared, when I've heard my
friends tell stories about here, wow! that's dangerous! you're not doing anything on
J: those tests! so apparently they're easier here. the tests, overall.
P: oh okay I did not-- I would not have guessed that!
J: And one thing that's easier here is Uber! fantastic, so convenient we don't
J: really have that in Sweden yet, which sucks. P: Hmmm!
J: but Sweden is great at public transportation and biking, too. there's bike
paths pretty much everywhere, depending on what city you're in. But mostly they're
J: definitely thinking about that. Where I live is amazing. the bus system is great!
buses have different colors for different routes. numbers... it's really great!
P: That's nice! J: And they leave
J: like every 8 minutes, usually. (P: wow!) in the daytime. and then 10, 30 minutes tops.
P: wow! that's great! our public
transportation varies a lot from state to state and city to city and in Los
Angeles... the subway system could be better. our bike paths-- do we have any bike paths?
J: In Santa Monica, yes, but here I can't see any bike paths!
P: yeah we have barely any. J: I was looking out the window the other
J: day and I saw a person biking right on the road, so many cars behind him. I'm like, "this is
J: interesting to watch" (P: Laughs) What's going to happen?
P: yeah I wish we had more bike paths, stuff, for cyclists in general
P: in Los Angeles. J: more serious, I think a harder thing here is, in general
J: to start a future. You've got to work longer shifts, more shifts, and then school, the school cost is free in Sweden--
J: so, like, it's not-- P: I'm sorry, school is free in Sweden?! (J: laughs)
J: Yeah, you didn't know that? P: DAMN! (J: laughs) I didn't know that!
J: Yes, so Sweden is
J: good in a lot of ways like that, like health care and school system and all--
P: Knew about the healthcare. J: The question, the question is, is it more fun than here?
J: Probably not! But is it more safe and easy? Yeah. Probably. P: Wow!
J: So I'm here for the fun, not for the safety and the, the money! (laughs)
P: So, the u.s. is more fun but
less safe. (J: I guess) I mean that's pro-- that's pretty accurate. that's a pretty
accurate assessment!
P: Does Sweden take in immigrants?
J: Yeah, Sweden's definitely one of those countries that take people in. (P: excellent!) We're very open!
P: oh! and this is something I
P: didn't put in the questions but like if somebody does immigrate to Sweden from
West Asia and then they live there, do people who are, who have a long family
history of being in Sweden, do they accept them as also Swedish or are they always an outsider?
K: no that's what I want to feel-- it's always a problem here and there, um..
I don't know! the people I hang out with, we're very welcoming, but I'm sure that there
is definitely racism here and there. there is actually, unfortunately, a
Swedish party getting more and more success now that's racist! (P: Oh, no!) apparently--
P: i blame us! J: They're gaining more success so apparently people
J: are out there that still are scared of different races for
some reason. so i can't really answer that question because it's so different
from what i know: people are welcoming. but I feel like since-- if you
J: compare to here people are more used to everyone looking different? (P: yeah) but in
Sweden we're not as used to it, so I would guess that people are scared of what
J: they don't know more than here. P: that makes sense
J: yeah. P: I don't expect you as one
P: person to speak for the entire country of Sweden! (J: laughs!) but I was just curious about your experiences
P: And I appreciate that. (J: yeah) how about the acceptance of races, sexual attractions,
genders, and body types in Sweden vs. Los Angeles?
J: I feel like the acceptance here is way better than in Sweden. Um, I think people are hiding behind
something in Sweden. If you go there, you'll see everyone trying to dress like
everyone else. pretty much it depends-- I went to an arts program at school and
J: everyone was themselves and like, everyone looked different. P: I mean thank goodness for arts programs!
J: yeah! so it depends, again, where you are, but over all, I feel like you're more welcome
J: to be different here than in Sweden. Actually, that's one thing that I don't like about Sweden:
J: We have something called Jantelagen. P: Ooh!
J: which is, like, I don't know what, what it means... It's a "rule" that's-- it's not an official rule, but it seems to be
a thing-- that you can't brag, you can't speak up for yourself, you
can't believe in yourself, you can't be different, you can't go a different route
J: than school and work you know-- (P: wow!) so... P: I had no idea about that!
J: So, unfortunately
yeah, that's a thing I hate about Sweden, because I'm a go-getter and I'm a dreamer, an
adventurer, so I go against that, always! but people are filing-- filing into the
J: Jantelogen! (P: wow! gosh.) in general this is a big thing in Sweden
that you don't really talk to strangers, we keep to ourselves.
Where we're like, "Why are you talking to me? why are you so close to me on the bus?
Why are you so close to me? Why--"
P: that's very different (J: yeah!) from the United States! J: Everyone walks up and talks to each other! It's amazing!
J: Um, we might seem cold on the outside but we're not. start talking and we'll be fine.
P: Oh, okay. alright, good to know. J: Because if you start
talking to someone on the street, they're like "oh I'm so surprised you're talking to me!"
J: but then they're (P: laughter) then they're really into it, and they get really happy when you leave them.
P: like, talking about stuff people don't talk about is usually what-- all it takes to
P: open up your eyes to stuff J: it's great. It's great. Yeah!
P: I appreciate that. J: So I'm glad that we do this.
P: that's it! I-- that's all my-- that's all my interview
P: questions. thank you for letting me put you on the spot.
J: Tack så mycket. P: I don't know what that means.
J: thank you very much. P: you're very welcome! (J: laughs)
P: How do I say you're welcome in Swedish? J: I, I don't think we have a word. (P: laughter!)
J: If I, like, offered you, oh, like if you-- if I gave this phone to you? (P: Okay)
J: And you say, "Tack." When I do that. P: Tack.
J: Varsågod! P: "Varsågod!"
J: There you go. P: Alright. cool!
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I'm trying to get 10,000 subscribers so that I can use the editing facilities at
P: YouTube Space LA and apply for YouTube NextUp, but I need 10,000 subscribers to
get there and you can be part of that. (laughter) Thanks again to Josie for joining me
in this, right before you get on a plane and leave the country!
J: Oh, right! (P: laughs) I should probably start getting ready!
P: You've gotta pack! (laughs) J: Okay! Thanks for having me!
P: You're very welcome! I'm glad to collab with you! I hope you watch more of my videos but whether
you do or not, please remember:
that tomorrow
will be even better!
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P: Just out of curiosity, how was it in Iowa? J: Um...
J: More white people. P: (Laughs!) I believe you!
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