TREY GOWDY DROPS ULTIMATE NUKE ON HILLARY CLINTON AND COMEY, PRIS0N TIME
so I did speak with trey gowdy about Flynn and about Cohen and want watch
purity advisor to the president it has now been revealed by him that when he was interviewed
by the FBI who wanted to know whether or not he was involved in any
sort of collusion during the campaign or the transition with Russian
officials to influence the u.s. elections he says that Andrew McCabe advised him that
he did not need an attorney present during that interview and
as we know what he is going to be sentenced for is lying to the FBI in
that meeting what do you make of that a stunning departure from the way they handled another
investigation called mid-year examination with Secretary Clinton
they had multiple lawyers who were also fact witnesses in the room
there there are allegations that they supplied the questions to witnesses ahead of time and
there's the clear insinuation that certain witnesses didn't
misrepresent material facts to the investigators but no one was charged with
making a false statement if you look at the Russia investigation Flynn Papadopoulos
Cohen I mean I'm not minimizing lying to the FBI I mean I
prosecuted people for two but if that's all you have it's serious but it suggests that
there's no other larger crime no one in the Clinton investigation
was prosecuted for making false statements and I just named three
for him to be told you don't need a lawyer present and for them to allow her to have
fact witnesses who were lawyers present is a stunning dichotomy that does
not reflect well on the Department of Justice Michael Cohen sentenced to
three years what do you make of that it's about right now it was the low end of the
guidelines he provided information but the southern district did
not view him as a cooperator but again mark this the same fact pattern
Michael Cohen the folks who thought he was a liar the day before he pled guilty and then
the I think he's the most important witness in
the world the day after he pleads guilty I just tell you a jury's not
going to believe someone like Michael Cohen so if your case hinges upon the credibility
of Michael Cohen good luck so it sounds like when you look
at these sentencing memos that came out on Friday and the new information
that we have today with regard to Michael Flynn and Michael Cohen what's your overall
impression of the Moller investigation and how it's going for robert
muller well I go back to what we asked him to do which is find out what
Russia did and until he writes that report that definitive report unfortunately for him
no one is interested in that part of his report except
maybe a handful of us they're all on this breathless indictment watch I
mean it is stunning that people are reading under black redacted lines hoping that there
is something that implicates the president United States so
they've lost interest in what Russia did that was what he was asked to do and
then the throwaway line was oh by the way if there's criminality we want to know about
that too I'm really interested in what Russia did in 2016 I'm
also interested in the criminality but what I've seen so far our false
statements bank fraud and Comey admitted last Friday collusions not a crime no matter how
badly CNN and the Democrats want it to be collusions not a crime you heard
from James Comey last week and then he will be back on December 17th
when he came out he was very upset that that was not an open forum and when he came out
and talked to reporters he said that he said there's no reason why this shouldn't
have been an open forum he also said that the suggestion that there
was FISA abuse in the initial stages of the investigation into the Trump campaign and
any connection to Russia was ridiculous absurd I think is the word
that he used you know Martha I was disappointed in what he didn't remember
but I was much more disappointed in what he never knew the head of the FBI as the campaign
for presidential candidate under investigation he never read
the initiation document didn't know that Peter struck had signed it still to
this day doesn't know that it makes reference to the Trump campaign he just thinks it's
for individuals doesn't know who Christopher Steele is doesn't know much
about Bruce or knows nothing about efforts to either corroborate or
contradict the dossier doesn't agree that there's a duty to produce exploratory information
you know I asked him when did you learn that the DNC was funding
the Oppo research into Trump oh I don't know as if it doesn't matter
well if you know and you're not telling a judge I mean don't you think it's relevant
hey my political enemies are responsible for everything I'm giving you
or 1/3 of what I'm getting you giving you a judge wants to know that so
Comey is one of the best I've ever seen at always being right in his mind and it doesn't
matter if he's a universe of one when you write a book about ethics and morality
that in and of itself is a fairly high opinion of yourself thing to
do Comey just thinks he's always right and it doesn't matter Horowitz thinks he's
wrong and it doesn't matter if everyone else concludes he did wrong he knows better so
that's what it's like to to interview an amnesiac with incredible hubris
do you believe that he functioned as a political FBI director um I think
Jim Comey was primarily motivated by a desire to protect the brand of Jim Comey I defended
him a lot in 2016 even when it was lonely to do so I would still defending
today if I thought he was making right decisions but he's been so
overtly partisan since he left not just president but he wants people to vote Democrat he wants
a Democrat house he's just become a political flunky and it's the
same guy in this very room that URI in right now said the FBI doesn't give a
hoot about politics and yet Peter struck and Lisa agent Baker and McCabe that's who was
running these two major investigations and he wants us to believe they don't care about
politics go read the text for yourself go reach Combes Twitter feed and
see whether or not he cares about politics what do you think about
President Trump you met him for the first time smile this week yesterday yes ma'am
number one appreciate him letting me come I want to advocate for John Ratcliffe or AG
and he'd already made the AG pick but he was kind enough to let
me come anyway wide-ranging conversation from from life and
Cavanaugh the opinion just came out yesterday not the opinion but the denial of cert Golf
What did he say about that well yes my opinion which which he did that
a lot he said what do you think about it and my sense is that Roberts
and Cavanaugh did not think those were the right facts to have another hearing on an
abortion related case and then we morph it into my time as a prosecutor actually
had a victim become pregnant as a result of a rape so we talked about
exceptions and whether or not I believe in them we talked about chief of staff we talked
about AG he got Lindsey on the phone at one point so we could talk about
it was a facet if you have a chief of staff in mind that he seemed to be
leaning towards if he did he didn't share it with me as you leave this position and
we see the new Congress coming in a majority of Democrats on the house
side what do you expect they will pursue in terms of oversight given the
landscape right now everything everything that their base wants them to pursue everything
that is calculated to disrupt the last two years of the Trump of
this tenure and office and it's it's they may be smart enough not to pursue
impeachment although some of them are not I mean 60 of them have already said he should
be impeached and Waller hadn't issued a single yet so it will be very very
difficult for this administration and they're gonna have to decide how they're going to
handle subpoenas and requests for information it will be bitterly ironic
for me to listen to Democrats clamor for the administration to be responsive when they
didn't say a word for the six years we were trying to get information
from with the Obama administration what did you think of the
scene in the Oval Office yesterday when President Trump was talking about how he wants to build
the wall he said I'd be proud to shut down the government over the
issue of border security it means that much to me and Nancy Pelosi and and
Chuck Schumer very much wanted to take that conversation private didn't want to debate
it in front of the public for people who like transparency there it is at
first I wasn't sure if I was watching Fox or watching professional wrestling
it was I've never seen I've been around a long time I've seen those conversations back
in judge's chambers I've seen them where you know there are no
cameras I've never seen it like that and it was clear to me that leader
Pelosi did not want to have that conversation in public but I if you're interested in a
framing of the issues the President believes that the wall is inextricably
intertwined to border security and the Democrats are trying to
convince you that they believe in border security but not a wall what I would love for the President
to ask yesterday is at one point you voted for the wall what
changed why was it a good idea five years ago but now it is xenophobic and
racist and not reflective of our values what other than the fact that I championed the
idea what has changed do you think it was a political mistake for him
to say that I'll own that shutdown that's you know if that's what you want
I'm happy to own it I think they were gonna I think there's a pretty good chance they
were going to call it the Trump shutdown no matter what he said now
Republicans also need to come up with a response that you haven't spent
the money we've given you already that that's pretty good counter talking point we
gave you one point six what have you done with that so it's good I don't I say don't
think there's gonna be a shutdown I didn't think there was gonna be
one I'm not sure right now nobody else we'll see what happens
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