FINALLY!!
JULIAN ASSANGE JUST UNLEASHED ULTIMATE NUKE ON HILLARY!
THIS COULD CHANGE EVERYTHING!
hey welcome back on brian Stelter this is reliable sources last week days before the
opening of the Democratic convention WikiLeaks published
a trove of hacked stolen DNC emails and voice messages indicating efforts
by party officials to hinder Bernie Sanders campaign and assist
Hillary Clinton's campaign this bombshell led the DNC chairwoman to step down but that
was just the beginning of this story US government sources and private
security firms strongly suspect that Russian intelligence agents were
behind the data breach WikiLeaks is promising to publish more DNC or Clinton related documents
in the months to come so let's ask what the leaks founder Julian
Assange about that and he's joining me live remotely from London
from the Ecuadorian Embassy where he's been under house arrest for years mr.
Assange let me show you what Hillary Clinton said just a couple of hours ago on
Fox News talking about this data dump here's what she said
we know that Russian intelligence services which are part of the Russian government which
is under the firm control of Vladimir Putin hacked into the
DNC and we know that they arranged for a lot of those emails to be released
and we know that Donald Trump has shown a very troubling willingness to back up Putin
so were you suggesting that Putin would rather see him as president than you
well I'm not going to jump to that conclusion but I think laying out the
facts raises serious issues about Russian interference in our elections mr.
Assange is Hillary Clinton wrong to link this to Russia well she's made several
untrue statements now not surprised I'll get to them it's not
surprising unfortunately that Hillary Clinton makes untrue statements just a few days ago
she made a statement that James Kony I did not say that she was sloppy
in the handling of her emails when there's Ridge everywhere of James
Kony telling the head of the FBI telling Congress precisely that so unfortunately
he can't trust what Hillary Clinton says I'll get to the words that she's used now for WikiLeaks
we're in a very difficult position we have a perfect 10 year record
of always presenting accurate information to the public
that's the best in any media whatsoever and we we also have a perfect record in ever exposing
our sources occasionally someone allege sources step for themselves
but web never expose we know I understand new cars have a source
protection organization you're not willing to disclose your sources which is understandable
and yet how can we get leaks claim to promote transparency in politics
without being open about the backstage interests that influence and
possibly steer your operation isn't it hypocritical to do that we're media organization and media
organizations have an obligation to protect their sources amer that's that's one oh that's
101 let's let me take you through a hypothetical let's say hypothetically
Russia gives you access to a trove of hacked stolen emails would
that hypothetically give you any pause ethically would it be an issue for you now let's not
talk about hypotheticals let's talk about about the real case Hillary
Clinton on Fox is trying to undermine our publication trying to draw
attention away from the fact that she conspired with the Debbie wasserman-schultz her former
campaign manager was head of the Democratic Party this
advert an election in the United States now there is what is the result
of that the result is the free market of electoral candidates was ruined instead you had a regulatory
organization the DNC abusing its radiant regulatory function
the paper one candidate above another including by pumping out black
media black media campaigns trying to undermine Bernie Sanders in complicity with a lot of
the media and that has been covered that has been covered but what
about your role what is the end result the end result may well be that
the less competitive candidates in an open market competition which is what is coming
up in the proper election has managed to secure the nomination and the result
of that could well be the election of Donald Trump so that
all published that news has been reported on but why did we publish voicemails our jewelry
market why did you publish social security numbers from innocent people why publish that
kind of material doesn't it hurt your cause WikiLeaks has contributed to
hundreds literally hundreds of court cases prosecutions liberating innocent people from
prison now we're not going I was inspired by WikiLeaks I remember interviewing
you six years ago I was so inspired by WikiLeaks but let me put up
Edward Snowden this tweet on screen this is I think the key as Snowden said democratizing
information has never been more vital and WikiLeaks has helped but their
hostility to even modest curation is a mistake why publish social security numbers why publish
voicemails from children oh as I just explained we publish pristine
archives that can be used in court cases and I used in court cases one for example was
used in the Yukos case which produced a 56 billion dollar dollar finding
against Russia in example in relation to expropriation of oil assets
that had previously belonged to a Russian oligarch so we're talking about at the highest
level in terms of civil cases and at the highest level for example
in CIA rendition programs so it's extremely important to not tamper
with the evidence to have a pristine archive and that's what we do now if you want to talk
about the reporting of personal details it's false there there are
not full credit card numbers in what we published what there is is what you
see on 7-eleven receipts the last four digits of credit card numbers there has been a final
decision there is no ability to appeal the decision of the United
Nations the lawfulness of my detention or otherwise is a now a matter
of settled law you can't decide that you are going to recognize a forum take place in proceedings
respond to the other party and then at the end when you don't
like the outcome because you have been breaking the law and you
don't even bother to appeal come out with press statements and say well we disagree
it is now the task of the states of Sweden and the United Kingdom as
a whole to implement the verdict now why they can be attempts for the media
for the popular press to look tough and attempt to undermine that a serious attempt not just
for show would have the effect of undermining the UN system and there
are consequences of doing that and Sweden and the UK know full well that
there are consequences those consequences include not merely weakening a human rights
and international law instrument to which both
countries have signed binding treaties but rather it will have the
diplomatic effect and upon diplomats know it the diplomatic effect will be to make life
difficult for Sweden and the United Kingdom to be treated seriously as
an international player as international players that obey the
international legal obligations their attempts if they proceed to undermine the UN system
we'll see we'll see various enforcement measures that can be taken
by the UN how concerned are you that the emails that WikiLeaks has has
released could have been hacked by the Russian secret services and could have been released
to you as a way of manipulating or influencing the u.s. presidential
elections these are separate questions Exce experts or so-called experts the Hillary
Clinton campaign has been quoting in terms of analysis they are
not analyzing our materials they have been analyzing previous materials are being published
by the hill the smoking gun and Gawker now they didn't publish emails
they analyzed their material it's positive this material given that it's
suspected very seriously that the russians hacked the the DNC accounts it's possible
that this material also came from the Russians and was also released
in order to cause maximum damage to the Clinton campaign well what
we try and do as a source protection organization is we like to create maximum and big Uwe T
as to who our sources up because a big was a hard drive
that came from eBay maybe consultants maybe activist maybe state
actors maybe whole lotta but you're not specifically Russian well perhaps one day the source or
sources will step forward and that might be a interesting moment
some people will have take on their paces and will be interesting but
obviously to exclude certain actors is to make it easier to find out who our sources
are so we never do it but but as an open source organization you encourage
material from from whatever source like that was like a vacuum
cleaner are you alright with the fact that it could have been the Russiansthat have done
this to manipulate the presidential elections but you could have
been used by the secret services in Moscow for precisely that reason are you
comfortable with that what we have right now is the Hillary Clinton campaign using a speculative
allegation about hacks that have occurred in the past to try
and divert attention from our emails another separate issue that WikiLeaks is
published now because they are having so much political impact in the United States and
I think this raises a very serious question which is is that the natural
instincts of Hillary Clinton and the people around her that when
confronted with a serious domestic political scandal that she tries to blame the Russians
blame the Chinese etc because if she does that when she's in government
that is a met a political managerial style
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